Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. TC, I think the TNIV may still accurate in its rendering of “prophet.” This may be due to the subjective interpretation of the translator, and not due to inaccuracy. Matthew 5:1-12 New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) The Beatitudes. I just wish that I knew enough to tell the difference — which is why I’m so very grateful for the effort you’re putting into this. I later got used to inclusive language in other trans. I found that the TNIV and NRSV did not use the word “prophetess” in the NT at all. And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors And do not bring us to the time of trial, but rescue us from the evil one. And would you classify it as a formal translation? There has been some speculation and discussion about this. Bravo! When the ESV came out I gave that a go as well. This verse really stumps me. lexicons) keyed to it, which is my problem with my two favorites, the NRSV and ESV. I do remember though, that it is a pretty obscure verse to translate, and the ESV`s rendering is probably as valid as the traditional ones. It’s the translation I tend to go to first. Give us this day our daily bread. The NRSV is not as literal as the NASB and is slightly less literal than the ESV; but yet, it is very accurate. Also, the ESV`s rendering in the 2001 edition was changed at some point in one of the revisions, because the 2007 version I have seemed a little “looser” with the translation of that verse than the 2001 edition. this lamp has moved! I also think something important for a main translation is having study materials (i.e. NASB. It deviates from the “traditional” rendering of God saying “I hate divorce.” Any thoughts? They are both fairly similar to the KJV. It would be good to examine, and comment upon, it pre-release, but we do not have that opportunity! Kevin, that will be a good series. 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Packer (an evangelical yes, but also an ordained Anglican) served as the general editor of the translation. RSV vs NRSV Bible - which is a better translation? While there aren’t many options for genuine leather in regards to the NJB, you do have some more options with the NRSV. In future revisions, if they could get rid of its inverted negatives, the ESV would be even more readable. The NASB, like the RSV, is also a direct revision of the old ASV. I try to promote it as much as possible because I love it so much. What surprised me is that there have been several times when the NASB has superfluously added a word or two to the text where it does not exist in the original language. But then I decided to give it a fair reading, and I must agree with you than I find it an excellent translation, but it will never become my primary Bible. Check out ESV’s blog post here . The NIV is very easy to read but may lack the accuracy of the NASB. I`ve noticed this to be much more glaring in the ESV than the NRSV. Kevin, I just ordered this book. I have long thought this to be true, but it seems for many blogs I’ve read, once that statement is made about readability, it’s the end of any discussion about the NASB being usable. The ESV seems to be the leanest in terms of wordiness—that is, it seems to use fewer words than the NASB and NRSV to say the same thing. I do have copies of the NAB and NJB, but honestly have never spent much time with them. With the ESV, it sort of fills a void that the NASB cannot fill because it stands in between the NASB and HCSB-TNIV. You have a keen eye and mind. There are dozens of times where the NASB adds … We, however, will not boast beyond limits, but will keep within the field that God has assigned to us, to reach out even as far as you. All translations have their shortcomings. Here’s why. please go to http://thislamp.com search this lamp: This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, once more, with feelin' ... VPP, VPP, VPP. In my opinion, it deserves greater respect than what it has received. Hmm, it looks like the paperback is only $5 used as well, anyways…. Moreover, I would prefer using “who” instead of the outdated “whom.” Lastly, I would like to pose a question to you of much more erudition than myself. I think you should consult a lexicon on this one. The language of the NRSV is also a strength because it makes it more readable than the NASB, and even the ESV. I don’t own a NKJV and never plan to, so someone else will have to give you specifics if you want them. Maybe you can add the ISV http://www.isv.org to it since I have found that the ISV philosophy of translation is very similiar to the HCSB.Randy. Just recently I picked up a very cheap Cambridge leather bound NRSV. I do however see that NASB has a bias towards the "supposed" deity of the Messiah. It`s been a good while so I`m having trouble remembering much without going back and checking it out again. I’m giving it another go. ESV vs. NRSV So, I have been dabbling a bit into my new ESV with Apocrypha (Deuterocanonicals) for the past few days. But with so many options available, I don’t think so. One of the tough things for me for some time was the NRSV`s rendering “mortal” instead of the traditional “son of man” when speaking to, for example, Ezekiel. Yoda’s voice…hehe. Reply. If you feel it is warranted to give them merit, then be my guest. Personally, I like some of it, especially Sirach. I think you should do that CEV, ISV, and GNB comparison. I found that T/NIV, HCSB, NASB also use “it.”. But then, the NRSV does this too. I was willing to overlook its awkwardness at times and inconsistencies. The NRSV, NASB, NET, TNIV say: “For I hate divorce.” The HCSB says: “he hates. The NASB sounds more awkward in its rendering of: “all the things that were coming upon Him.” The ESV’s “ all that would happen to him” or the NRSV’s “ all that was to happen to him” flows better. ( Log Out /  From a detailed perspective, it is definitely the most literal in the majority of cases; and overall, from a broader perspective, it is still the most literal of the three. The ESV website says now in its FAQ, that another publisher (other than Crossway) is preparing a version of the ESV with the apocrypha. I use douay-rheims + Luther Bibel + NASB + electronic interlinear versions when I need to do serious "work". I found myself reading it with Yoda’s voice in my head! The 2020 is unusually wordy for the NASB. 2:1,2,4; 4:10; 6:5,9; 2 Tim.3:2,13. nasb vs. nrsv 01/18/2007 11:57 Filed in: Faith & Reason In the comments of a previous post , regular This Lamp commenter, "Larry" has challenged my assertion that the NASB is more literal than the NRSV. Another strength of the ESV is that it is the most up-to-date in scholarship. This form is nominative singular not dative anything. It has been underestimated by mainline and secular academic settings in the past, and this is too bad. It’s interesting why the NRSV and TNIV would want to use “prophet” for προφῆτις. Crossways, however, are a dynamic bunch, and are committed to a high view of Scripture and the necessity of as accurate a translation as fallen creatures can produce; and I have high hopes for continued improvements in ESV! the NASB and the NRSV together. Thank you. As an example, see 2 Timothy 2:2, where ESV breaks its regular translation principles to render “men” rather than “people”, the only justification being a presupposition, in fact falsified by 1:5 and 3:14,15, that women can never be qualified to teach others. If you were then (blush blush). It uses “people” (63%) more often than “man/men” (38%). The important thing is that you have a translation that you feel speaks to you. Thanks for the good work done here. I’m currently reading the TNIV Books of the Bible and (coincidentally) wondering how it compares to the HCSB, so the next series is perfect! If you are planning to do another series my vote would be: HCSB/TNIV/NET. Your kingdom come. The New Greek-English Interlinear New Testament (Personal Size), Interlinear KJV Parallel New Testament in Greek and English, http://www.augsburgfortre...d=195708&infoid=21347. I’d rather use the KJV itself or one of it’s revisions that used the critical texts (RSV, NRSV, ESV, or NASB). 5 When Jesus [] saw the crowds, he went up the mountain; and after he sat down, his disciples came to him. KJV-onlyism discussion allowed in KJO forum o. I got NASB and NRSV here on my desk. I am in no way a person of erudition. While προφήτης refers to males. NASB 1995. In essence, I think the NASB vs ESV question will have resolved itself in favour of the ESV. The NASB. I find NRSV uses more down to earth English structure while NASB uses out there kind of English structure. The NRSV is not as literal as the NASB and is slightly less literal than the ESV; but yet, it is very accurate. I’ll consult my lexicon when I get to my office. Depending on what I’m looking at I usually go to one of a handful of translations to see alternative renderings. Thanks for doing this series, Kevin – it’s been interesting to see the differences. Definitely. So my search for a formal equivalent translation will continue on sometime into the future. I don’t think you can go wrong it. I think your series has helped finally convince me that there is no right translation. Literal while retaining better readability than the NASB; All three translations are very good but I do not want to minimize any of their strengths so I cannot prescribe a “best translation”. I’m glad you still use the NKJV and NASB because they’re great reliable formal translations. The NASB meets that need. who is the best here? Does anyone here know anything more about this, such as who this other publisher might be, or when it will come to pass? “For the man who hates and divorces…(ESV 2001) now becomes “For the man who does not love his wife but divorces her…” (ESV 2007). “Kevin, I think you’d like a comparison with the REB to the TNIV and HCSB.”. Pardon the sidebar, just thought I`d share since you mentioned interlinears. Robert, like L. Wells said, this is a very difficult verse to translate. Kevin, I really appreciate these comparisons. I believe that the NRSV tends to be less conservative with how it treats the underlying manuscripts (i.e., deleting more things from the preserved texts), though both the ESV and NRSV are … Nathan, I think my next series will be on the TNIV and HCSB. My primary text is the TNIV,and it too has it problems. v. 4: The NRSV’s contemporary usage of “looking for” instead of “seek” is better. Just wondered which statement you think is correct? You might also want to see the translation note on the NET bible. The beautiful and majestic language of the KJV has had a huge influence on the English language and is very often thought of as the "real" translation, even by people who are not religous. I never was a big user of the NRSV, but my Greek instructor loved it. I`ve come to love the NRSV more and more, but I use the ESV right beside it often times. Kevin, that’s exactly my point. So far the translations seem very similar. Excellent for serious Bible study; 1995 revision is more readable than 1977 (Note that the 1977 version uses "Thee" and "Thou" to distinguish God.) The options are: “We love Him because He first loved us” versus “We love because He first loved us.” The issue here is not translation style. Many people said that it was more readable than the NASB but that wasn’t my experience. Do you have a favourite you refer to? I guess I have got more used to inclusive language now and it sounds ok most of the time. I think the addition of an ESV apocrypha will be really good for the ESV translation itself. Also, it is always good to stick with genuine leather if possible. I’ve been wondering why no one talks about that one. With greek nouns, whether a dative plural noun ends with –ις or –ιν, depending on the declensions, it still means “prophet”. Accuracy and literalness should not be equated as the same thing. I use both. It’s kind of neat to see the ESV blog’s link to this post. Please log in using one of these methods to post your comment: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Kevin, I think you’d like a comparison with the REB to the TNIV and HCSB. I wonder though sometimes, if we have collectively, become overtly critical of every minute detail of a translation due to the fact that today we have so many choices of excellent ones (spoiled brats are we!). Another interesting bible translation comparison would be a “literary excellence” series, featuring the KJV, REB and New Jerusalem Bible (NJB). Valerie, I use the New Greek-English Interlinear NT: NRSV. the battle ( for such it has ever been) to retain certain versions is now lost – not that all of the losers were poor soldiers, but the accelerating culture changes are simply irreversible. NASB After blogging on this series on the three formal equivalent translations, I cannot say there is a clear #1 winner because it all depends on what a person wants in a translation. I noticed that both NASB and NRSV have their own bias, but NRSV seems to be more honest since it provides footnotes of other possible translations. The New Revised Standard Version captures it best, “The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.” A Clearer Isaiah 53:4 My apologies if this has been covered before, as I am new here. I also feel the NRSV is a good overall translation, but it’s association with the National Council of Churches has kept some from examining it, as well as the extremes in terminology they have chosen to go gender-neutral. Click to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. I like the translation overall, and it is my second choice behind the NRSV(perhaps because they are a nice balance when read side by side? ESV How does it really stack up, aside from it`s great popularity? Both the ESV and NRSV are excellent because of their mixture of both readability and accuracy—something the NASB cannot claim. However, I chose the Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB) over the ESV, because the HCSB uses more contemporary language than the ESV. The word “prophet” is masculine. The REB is one I`ve had some interest in for a while. I was wondering if there are any advantes of the RSV over the NRSV. Kevin, I am looking forward toward your TNIV and HCSB comparison. I'm looking for back stories of the texts used and politics involved. That sounds exciting ElSh. Kevin, this is a case where προφῆτις is only used in reference to females and not males. Thanks for the links Kevin, I will have to read the 25 page article later, but the NET translation note was very good. Just thought someone here might have a bit more info. It has served me well and I use it all the time. 6 comments. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. ( Log Out /  In a way I`m a little bit surprised this hasn`t already been done, seeing how J.I. Postscript : See I Corinthians 13:8-13 in translations – what a hash!! Do you have any suggestions for that third? Maybe you can throw in the NLTse. I predict that it will gain a greater respectability from mainline/secular academia than the NASB ever did. We not speaking of diakonos that refers to both males and females. What about the English Standard Version? The NASB is better in some places than the NRSV, and the NRSV is better in some places than the NASB. Many thanks to all who contribute. I am finding NASB to be pretty good. A prayer of a righteous person, when it is brought about, can accomplish much. I don’t remember all of the details, but the only discussion I’ve seen about it was at the Bible Design and Binding blog. Kevin, I’m in essential agreement with your conclusions on all three formal translations. Thanks. ), though I still use the old RSV a lot too. Hi Alex, thanks for reading my blog. Like the NRSV when it first came out, ESV translators also made distinctly unique decisions regarding the rendering of certain passages. The NRSV is greatly enhanced in its readability over the RSV, and has increased in accuracy too. Excellent series. If your fall on the TR side of the textual debate, then the NKJV is the “cheese”, if not the NASB has to be a strong favorite in my opinion. I don’t think this is a case of conservative bias—just a decision that could go either way. I have found the history in the Maccabbees interesting. I had started a TNIV/HCSB/NET/ISV “median translation comparison” post at one point in time, but never got around to doing anything with it. Literalness makes it less readable, but nevertheless, it is still readable to the average person. BTW, I posted a couple of comments under the God and gender post, let me know what you think. share. Does a translation have to get it all right for it to be considered trustworthy? I found the inclusive language interesting but it sounded a bit odd to me, so I went back to the NASB. I took a look at Mark 13:14 (οπου ου δει, where not ought) and this is what I think. The NASB was my first choice Bible for reading, studying and preaching. I’ll have to check it out one day. The NASB has a stellar reputation for very good reasons. Word Study Greek-English New Testament: with complete concordance (Hardcover)by Paul McReynolds (Editor). They are all about in the same category, and they are all great translations in their own right. John 3:16 (GNT) For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not die but have eternal life. This is the last of this comparison series between the NASB, ESV and NRSV. Thanks for ALL for your suggestions for an optional 3rd translation for my next series on TNIV vs HCSB: Robert G.(NET), Randy T.(ISV), Valerie(REB), TC(NLTse). When my original copy fell apart I bought the 1995 update, which was more readable but slightly less literal. Lastly, the one other advantage with the NRSV over the NJB or NAB is the … The ESV is very close to the New American Standard Bible (NASB) in accuracy, and it flows better than the NASB. Since its translators are conservative/evangelical, like the NASB, it will inevitably become the pride of evangelicals. Kevin, you may consider ESV trustworthy, but I don’t think I will because of the evidence I have seen of wordings deliberately distorted to fit the translators’ theological presuppositions. This is beyond me, as Strong`s and the like do not define articles such as these, and I`m no Greek scholar. L.Wells, when you said: “I would like to pose a question to you of much more erudition than myself.” I didn’t think you were talking to me. If I`m not mistaken it was the ASV……of course my 40 year ld memory could be a failing. Personal opinions: I use NASB for daily readings. The NASB is the more literal version, and is probably more accurate as a result. I believe it is a subjective and personal decision because each person wants something different in a translation. I have recently started to consult the ESV much more often because I have discovered its excellence. And of course, I will do the same. This is why the textual footnotes are just as important as the textual body. I think the English-Greek Reverse Interlinear New Testament: ESV is great too. The ESV is second in literalness after the NASB. I also use the ESV (as my secondary (comparing, and occasionally reading, & taking to church) bible, my primary bible is the HCSB. The NASB is an original translation from the Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts, based on the same principles of translation, and wording, as the American Standard Version (ASV) of 1901. posts are no longer being added here. Oh! The amount of meticulous translation work done on the NASB is incredible. 1 Peter 3:7 – “live with your wives in an understanding way, as with someone weaker” (NASB) vs. “live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel” (ESV) Additions. The translators of the NRSV did a lot of work in making improvements over the RSV, even more so than what the ESV translators have done with the RSV, in my opinion. And just what you think of these bibles. Once again, well done – and many thanks! I had a difficult time accepting the ESV because of the anti-rhetoric against the TNIV, and then I thought it didn’t do enough with the RSV. I think I will use it for a while and see how I get on. If the translators believe that the all-inclusive “prophet” is alright for προφῆτις, then why not “man” for aner? Anyway, if you hear anything more about it, I`d appreciate it very much if you posted it here. I also would like to say, I think Peter is correct to a great extent about the obvious theological views of the ESV translators showing up in their choice of renderings. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Valerie, I’m excited to see you are reading The Books of the Bible as well. If I am right about this (and I might not be, in which case, I’d detract what I say), it doesn’t matter whether it is προφήτης (Lk.3:4) or προφῆτις (Lk.2:36) or προφητιν (Rev.2:20), it all means “prophet”…so maybe the TNIV is right? From what I gather from the Amazon reviews, it sounds really good because it has Strong’s numbers and a full concordance. Thanks for posting the interlinear titles Kevin. TC, I’ll consider that idea of the NLTse.…and just make sure it’s the First edition NET or you’ll be stuck with the Reader’s edition without any notes. What I like about this one is that it has a full concordance in addition to the interlinear, plus it has Strong`s numbers above every word. TC. All three translations are very good, and they are each unique in their own ways. Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. If one wants the most literal word-for-word precision (in alignment with the Greek) and do not mind the choppiness in reading, plus a conservative theological outlook, then the NASB is best. I still like the REB, HCSB, and TNIV comparison as proposed by Nathan. I have only done so because I became accustomed to pulling the NASB and NRSV off the shelf first but this should not reflect my opinion of any of the three. Have you ever compared the NAB with anything? I am open minded to all opinions, but I would like scriptural support of version preference. LOL. Very late comment on an excellent extended blog! In my study, I’ve noticed that scholars on the NRSV seems to have done more work than the translators of the ESV. For comparison: NASB: [waiting for the moving of the waters; 4 for an angel of the Lord went down at certain seasons into the pool and stirred up the water; whoever then first, after the stirring up of the water, stepped in was made well from whatever disease with which he was afflicted.] If you need a copy of the NJB, I picked mine up from Amazon for cheap and it has been nice enough to recommend. What version is better and why? I also appreciate the comments about the NASB, even though somewhat more “wooden” in reading due to its literalness, still being readable. Translators of the NASB have done an excellent job and notably so. What’s your 4th recommendation? No, I’ve never done a comparison with the NAB, NJB, ISV, or REB before. Actually this lineup sounds very promising. May I change my vote to ISV? 1) The NIV is easier to read for most normal people. Also, ten years on from the original post, has your opinion changed at all? Hi BStaggs, thanks for your input. I had just finished studying selected passages from Hebrew and Greek as rendered by KJV ERV ASV RSV NASB1977 NASB1995 NRSV ESV2001 ESV2007 ESV2011 NIV1984 NIV2011, when I came across your site – and was VERY delighted to see that we agree on the conclusion! Those inverted negatives are weird. I think the NKJV is probably one of the only translations I will never use, along with paraphrases. The NASB, ESV, and NRSV are all very good, and currently, I refer to all three in by comparisons. Plus, the use of inclusive language makes it less accurate. Oh btw, it also contains the NRSV in the margins. I think I will… just need to select some appropriate verses and find a copy of the NJB to use. New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) Pray then in this way: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Thanks for your help Kevin. The ESV is a scholarly translation and will become known as such. The NASB brackets John 5:3b-4; the ESV footnotes those verses. So, what is your next series going to be? It is concerning a verse in Mark 13:14, in which it says “the abomination of desolation standing where HE ought not to be”, while other translations state “where IT ought not to be”. And where it renders “man” is: 1 Tim.2:5; 5:24; 2 Tim. Thanks Robert for your comment and question, and Nathan for finding the link. 2 Corinthians 10:13 (NRSV) The NRSV is also an updated version of the RSV. I’ll reserve further recommendation based on whether or not you are going to do a four-way layout again or not. The NLTse is a DE. It’s nothing fancy for the price but if you want to buy a cheap copy for comparisons that is all that I use mine for at the moment. I need to invest in a new one, I had an old KVJ one, but it is boxed up somewhere from my last move I suppose (perhaps if I could locate it, it would`ve saved me from asking that question about the verse in Mark, as I am assuming neither IT nor HE are in the Greek). I`ve been hoping for a long time this would happen. I tend to agree with the conclusion from this site: http://bible-researcher.com/esv.html, “So, for close study the ESV is less suitable than the NASB or NKJV. NRSV has a cheaper concordance, so if you're doing "serious academic" stuff, that may be a factor for you. I bought an NRSV fairly soon after it was released. Change ). Anyways, this is just the tip of the iceburg on the differences. Or is there a legitimate argument for translating he for it from the Greek? Do you have any experience with it? It might even move it one notch higher in making it a more sought out bible for academic purposes and for reading purposes. It won’t be the first evangelical translation to do so because the NLT has one. I’ve been using the NASB since 1982. The Greek, although a little difficult, is rather simple. Seems like a double-standard sometimes, doesn’t it? ( Log Out /  I think the difference in worldview is less of a factor than the way the text is handled. Heck, I just bought another ESV this week, could not resist the pocket reference single column bible that just came out. While the ESV is not my primary text, I still find it an excellent translation. John 3:16 Paraphrase Translations. Accuracy and literalness should not be equated as the same thing. And of course I had to get out my pen and re-write a few passages (John 1:18, 2nd Peter 1:1, Titus 2:13, Jude 1:4, Revelation 1:8, with some others) to their proper grammatical structure along with wording provided by other manuscripts. It is definitely an improvement over the old RSV, particularly in its elimination of archaic English and its modest use of inclusive language. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! I find the NASB to be very accurate in its wording, but harder to read because the accuracy sometimes hinders flow. I noticed that both NASB and NRSV have their own bias, but NRSV seems to be more honest since it provides footnotes of other possible translations. 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